А то,что опп пользовался просмотром воздуха не отстроив гильдию это норма?

а просмотр воздуха это что заклинания 4 или 5 уровня?

опп пользовался просмотром не имея книги магии


Странно что маретти не ознакомился с такой важной частью правил:
5.6. Переходы между зонами.
5.6.4. Разрешено проникать в соседние зоны с помощью Крыльев Ангела, заклинаний Пространственные Врата и Полет, не уничтожая при этом охрану. (тока на джебусе запрещено)

Хотелось бы поглядеть какой-никакой финальный бой

JavdetНаверное всё же дело вкуса. И баланс и мини сугубо лотерейные варианты.

На мини-носте может быть такой жир, что там часто возможны ранние архи... да и конс может накидать. Баланс конечно лотерея, но там у тебя преимущество за счёт того, что родное мясо рампа куда толще, чем у кастла. ИМХО.

JavdetДа, Костя, возник спорный вопрос в партии (ну для меня как бы не спорный, ответ очевиден). Полётом отнял замок соперника. Маретти не согласен с такой постановой, говорит нужно охрану пробивать.

Ну скопируй ему пункт:

5.6.4. It is allowed to move between zones using Angel Wings, Dimension Door and Flight spells without destroying the passage guards.

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Lider1а просмотр воздуха это что заклинания 4 или 5 уровня?

ну если бы эта магия была хотя бы 3 уровня, было бы норм.

As I read the rules you can go from zone to zone without fighting the guards, but in this case the only guards there is between us is the big block and they have to be faught. If you can just fly in like that on a temp where the towns are so close and there is a big block that ruins the temp imho. Whoever gets DD and fly gets to big an advantage.

Dirty_Playerну если бы эта магия была хотя бы 3 уровня, было бы норм.

Я имел ввиду что вопрос не в том

"если на каком уровне была бы эта магия", а в том что нарушений правил нет, так как просмотр воздуха первого уровня, и хоть с книгой, хоть без книги этим пользоваться можно, так как на это нет запрета.

Был бы просмотр четвертого или пятого уровня, тогда да, без гильдии нельзя, в общем что тут писать и так очевидно.

**Я иногда и городской портал делаю не имея книги и ничего (не со свитка)

MarettiAs I read the rules you can go from zone to zone without fighting the guards, but in this case the only guards there is between us is the big block and they have to be faught. If you can just fly in like that on a temp where the towns are so close and there is a big block that ruins the temp imho. Whoever gets DD and fly gets to big an advantage.

According to existing rules:

5.6.4. It is allowed to move between zones using Angel Wings, Dimension Door and Flight spells without destroying the passage guards.

Thus Javdet's action is correct.

I'm sorry, but always we played like this on 2sm4d3 template with a big block between players' starting zones. Mini-nostalgia has quite the same layout. The reason is probably that it's usually easier to destroy big block than to find transport magic. The situation changes on Jebus - due to weak guards in starting zones and possibility ho have relics there it's sometimes possible to get DD or fly very easily. Thus there is necessary to fight big block.

Сыграли 2ю игру. Тоже мини-носта. (Кстати, насчёт баланса ещё один нюанс не в пользу рампа - некромантия. Перепрыгнуть с Киррюши на какого-нибудь Вокиала это поступок для сильных духом))), за касл же таких вопросов возникать не должно)

Генератор теперь сдал с точностью до наоборот - мне сапожки, 5 консерв, в 1й же треже крылья и книга земли, сопернику лишь блоки.
Но мог и этот расклад о...ть))) Под конец 1й недели уже начало сказываться позднее время и температура. К концу игры потери составляли 4 ангела, 8 уток, по мелочи и отжор на подемонить)) И это при несложных охранах. На 127 залетаю в гости. Игру отложили, потом Маретти решил не продолжать.

Посмотрел 1ю неделю стрима, Крейзи конечно отжёг с Lovers-4

Всё верно - можно было и в минотавров идти, но както по деньгам не сросталось, и не брать кучу халявного мяса жаба давила.
По поводу долгих дебатов про воду на 1м лвл-апе. Недавно 3 раза подряд её пихали, в итоге взял её, а земля пришла чуть ли не в последний слот. Просто обезопасил себя от такой каки. Тем более массблессы и диспелы иногда могут очень пригодиться.

JavdetИгру отложили, потом Маретти решил не продолжать.

Отец, счёт какой?
Я правильно понимаю, что 2:2?
И тебе осталось выиграть одну игру?

Или я где-то ошибаюсь?

2-1 счёт. (по сыгранным 1-1)

Врубился теперь.
Я грешным делом подумал, что партия с захватом мейна на крыльях и партия, где Маретти решил не продолжать - это разные партии
Извиняюсь за поспешные выводы.
Невнимательно прочитал, эмоции захлестнули

Желаю удачи в оставшихся партиях.
Тащи-и-и-и-и!!!!

Сорри за флуд.

На начало следующей игры отпишитесь в теме заранее если выйдет. День, время.

Maretti def Javdet 2-1

Game 1: Pretty perfect game for me on mini nostalgica. Got Tazar as main. Swordsmandwell, 3 cons so had a good powerstack of angels. Log and gloves early. Week 3 i took tope in my area and after that full tope that gave earth book and wings. Made aas and monarcs and got very strong. Then went for his town that I took and moved on to one of his t areas where i found boots, red orb and shackles. He came to same t area where i could attack him and win easily.

Game 2: Again mini nostalgica. Saw boots day 1 and hoped they were in one of my comp players area. Turned out it was Javdets area, since i saw him pick them up day 1. Unfortunatly i was out of restarts. Allthough I got Hack I knew it would be uphill. Had no speed and felt things were going very slowly. When I was just about to get things going he flew in and took my town 127. Didnt know that was allowed, so lost moral and gave up. Had I known it was allowed I would have played it the same way, so that misunderstanding didnt change anything.

Game 3: 2sm4d(3). He used all restarts. Since I was red and saw a con, lvl 4 and lvl 1 dwells, had archers prebuilt, got alkin and took full crypt day 1 that gave swiftness I decided to play it. I quickly broke to offroad grass area and took an obs there. He was there so I ran back to avoid a restart allthough I could see that I couldnt avoid it if he would go for it. Went to uni and got tacs, but unfortunatly was offered water at 4 and 8. Took it at 8. 117 I suddenly found out I was low on money so attacked 14 unicorns to get acces to a tressurie. Was somewhat risky and lost a champ, but could have been worse. 121 I took a full tressurie and 122 con with throng that gave 2 angels. Then I moved Luna forward with one angel hoping i could reach a prison and with that hero take his 2nd town. Was 1 step short but saw another con that i went for with alkin, but placed another scout so that I could take his town next turn if I wanted to. He could see I had at least 2 angels and that I could be by him very soon. My stats was much better than his so I guess he ran a risk taking a con that turned out to be max and suicided there. GG. Thanks for playing.


I enjoyed playing in this tournament and I wanna thank the organisers for their effort and Indra for asking me to play in it and especially Sticky for his great effort in making streams and organising events in generel.

Seems global heating means colder winters in Denmark, so knitwear will always be welcome

Ждем подтверждения игры. И оформите все отчеты игр как следует.

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TO Maretti :
Please make a report in standard form.
For example:
01.06.2010 Player (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Player2 (blue, Inferno, Pyre, Marius) 2SM4d(3), 136

TO Javdet:
Например:
01.06.2010 Player (красный, темница, Шакти, Шакти) def Player2 (синий, инферно, Пиррь, Мариус) 2SM4d(3), 136

MarettiMaretti def Javdet 2-1

Game 1: Pretty perfect game for me on mini nostalgica. Got Tazar as main. Swordsmandwell, 3 cons so had a good powerstack of angels. Log and gloves early. Week 3 i took tope in my area and after that full tope that gave earth book and wings. Made aas and monarcs and got very strong. Then went for his town that I took and moved on to one of his t areas where i found boots, red orb and shackles. He came to same t area where i could attack him and win easily.

Game 2: Again mini nostalgica. Saw boots day 1 and hoped they were in one of my comp players area. Turned out it was Javdets area, since i saw him pick them up day 1. Unfortunatly i was out of restarts. Allthough I got Hack I knew it would be uphill. Had no speed and felt things were going very slowly. When I was just about to get things going he flew in and took my town 127. Didnt know that was allowed, so lost moral and gave up. Had I known it was allowed I would have played it the same way, so that misunderstanding didnt change anything.

Game 3: 2sm4d(3). He used all restarts. Since I was red and saw a con, lvl 4 and lvl 1 dwells, had archers prebuilt, got alkin and took full crypt day 1 that gave swiftness I decided to play it. I quickly broke to offroad grass area and took an obs there. He was there so I ran back to avoid a restart allthough I could see that I couldnt avoid it if he would go for it. Went to uni and got tacs, but unfortunatly was offered water at 4 and 8. Took it at 8. 117 I suddenly found out I was low on money so attacked 14 unicorns to get acces to a tressurie. Was somewhat risky and lost a champ, but could have been worse. 121 I took a full tressurie and 122 con with throng that gave 2 angels. Then I moved Luna forward with one angel hoping i could reach a prison and with that hero take his 2nd town. Was 1 step short but saw another con that i went for with alkin, but placed another scout so that I could take his town next turn if I wanted to. He could see I had at least 2 angels and that I could be by him very soon. My stats was much better than his so I guess he ran a risk taking a con that turned out to be max and suicided there. GG. Thanks for playing.


I enjoyed playing in this tournament and I wanna thank the organisers for their effort and Indra for asking me to play in it and especially Sticky for his great effort in making streams and organising events in generel.

Seems global heating means colder winters in Denmark, so knitwear will always be welcome

Было, прое...ал уже 3й финал, похоже на патологию. Либо подпись менять, либо завязывать ваще.

2 Маретти уважуха - уделал на рестах, оба раза сыграл на мизере, я очканул и 2й ре на 112 можно было не брать. По оконцове сдало неплохо, даже дабла была. Но полез в консу не проверив, там макси, слив однозначный.

Thx for game 2